SEASON 70

1. Vic Almadova, 12.4 Importance Score w/Estimated WAR
2. Harry Colon, 10.3 Importance Score w/Estimated WAR
3. Erik Standridge, 7.4 Importance Score w/Estimated WAR
4. Jeff Park, 6.4 Importance Score w/Estimated WAR
5. Alex Guillen, 5.7 Importance Score w/Estimated WAR
6. Enrique Gamboa, 5.0 Importance Score w/ Estimated WAR
7. Dariel Adams, 4.6 Importance Score w/Estimated WAR
8. Francisley Arenado, 4.4 Importance Score w/Estimated WAR
9. Ichiro Nomo, 4.3 Importance Score w/Estimated WAR
10. Phil Combs, 3.4 Importance Score w/Estimated WAR
11. Scott Murphy, 3.3 Importance Score w/Estimated WAR
12. Marvin Schaeffer, 3.1 Importance Score w/Estimated WAR
13. Miguel Ozuna, 3.0 Importance Score w/Estimated WAR
14. Stephen Pritchett, 2.6 Importance Score w/ Estimated WAR
15. (tie) Dellin Santana, Stephen Calderon, 2.4 Importance Score w/ Estimated WAR
16. Tom Spradlin, 1.3 Importance Score w/ Estimated WAR

(No data yet on Alex Fernandez, but he's top 5 all time in Stickball SB's) (EDIT: also no data yet on Chavez but a good case has been made below and I want to see how the numbers stack up)

This is not everyone who is on the ballot, just everyone who a) made the ballot and b) I've already done the math for...but aside from Fernandez I don't think there are many major names missing (please point someone out if I missed them!) Given all that, I think Almadova, Colon and Fernandez would be the only players I'd entertain the idea of endorsing as a lock while there are a few others (Standridge, Park, Guillen, Gamboa) I'd lump in the "Hall of Very Good" category to start with and possibly pick one or two to give a non-vote lock depending on how others are feeling.

I tend to agree. Park is a tweener, but maybe deserves a vote, too. Similar feeling with Adams. Anyone else have thoughts?

Agree on Alex Fernandez, but I think Francisco Chavez is worthy of a lock, or at least a strongly suggested. This short king has all the bonafides and hardware — six All-Star games, five Silver Sluggers, two MVP, a Gold Glove, a Rookie of the Year and a World Series ring. He was a plus defender at third base (135 plus plays, 4 minus plays) who batted .311/.370/.586 (.956 OPS) with 564 home runs. That's a Hall of Famer, my friends.

I agree on Chavez.

I think we have two truly elite candidates this year. Fernandez is obvious, inner circle HOF, we'll all agree on that. Chavez is a beast. A .956 OPS, 500+ HR, 135 ++ plays/a .976 career fielding % at 3B? I mean, that's basically Mike Schmidt. To me those two are easy. The more difficult ones come after - there's a bunch of guys in that Standridge/Lowe/Alvarez/almadova grouping... the one that stands out the most to me is Enrique Gamboa. 7 time all-star, strong RF/1B with 2400 hits and 500/500 HR/SB. He's the closest to lock status for me but I don't think he quite makes the cut in this class. I'd be happy to rec those two as locks and feature the candidacies of that other group.

Yes, let's do that, Pimp.

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Anyone? Anyone? Something "D.O.O. Economics"?

Steve Lowe for sure
Calderone
Banks
Ashby
Camacho
from what I see

Lowe, Oroposa, and Camacho would be my three locks.

I'm OK with Lowe as best of the maulers who were unplayable defensively. A few words on others:

• Banks: A plus-plus defender at premium positions — 191 +plays to 2 -plays at CF, 2B and LF — who had a nearly .900 OPS, more than 550 homers and 300 steals, and collected every career accolade but a World Series ring. Should be a shoo-in.

• Fernandez: Decorated infielder who won three World Series titles while surpassing 460 homers and steals, turning in an .866 career OPS while playing plus defense at second and third base.

• Oropesa: While his offensive numbers suffered due to calling Seattle home for most of his career, Oropesa still managed 425 homers, 416 steals and a .797 OPS while collecting several Gold Gloves and four World Series rings. His 187 +plays at 3B are fifth all-time in Stickball history.

• Camacho: This dude could still give you 210 innings of a 4.15 ERA at 42. In addition to the 3.87 career ERA, 271 wins and 3,403 strikeouts, he'd third in league history in complete games (105) and shutouts (27) and fifth in +plays by pitchers (52).

• Ashby: A similar case to Camacho — Gold Glove, 3.64 ERA, 3,245 Ks, 245 wins, fourth in Stickball history in complete games (91) — but didn't start quite as many games.

• Ryan: A elite reliever who didn't close for much of his career. Is there a place for that profile in our Cooperstown? Dominant stuff for a long stretch: 3.26 ERA, .219 OAV, 1.10 WHIP.

Stephen, you saw that almost exactly as I did. I think we may want to come up with three locks and prioritize eligibility. In other words, first-timers may need to be passed on this season to ensure we get three in. I haven't checked that yet. Let's see if I can drag some of the other members in here to posit their thoughts.

I'm good with Lowe, Oropesa and Camacho as locks

Brunsfan has a major input coming soon. I'm not sure it will change our minds, but he puts in so much work, let's give it a go. I'm looking forward to his comment here.

Sorry guys I have been busy.
Banks
Camacho
Ashby

Also vote for:
Lowe
Oropesa