Posted by DougOut on 2/13/2022 12:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Uofa2 on 2/13/2022 12:38:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 2/12/2022 11:42:00 PM (view original):
fyi, I think Biden is actually bad for continuing Trump's border policies. I don't like how this conversation presupposes that Trump immigration policy = good
It is very telling and typical of Doug to not be able to name a SINGLE policy or thing Biden did to increase immigration or increase gas prices.
The go-to answer is always the Keystone pipeline, which was so ridiculously inefficient that no private entity wanted to sponsor it and employed about a dozen people full-time, and also wasn't even completed at the time of its cancellation so ending the pipeline had zero effect on production.
Doug won't respond to this btw. He'll post some random conservative meme or a snarky quip that doesn't address the point to dodge the fact that he's just wrong about basically everything. This is how most conservatives are: They're wrong and don't care that they're wrong.
100% agree re: Biden’s border policies. I’m not the biggest fan, though he’s made some cosmetic changes that are good. But overall, nah, it’s not that much change from Trump.
Its just ******* hilarious that he’s doing a better job of it, just like Obama did, as bag said, and the right wingers won’t acknowledge it. So clearly it’s not policy they actually have a problem with.
Obviously you’re correct about the keystone pipeline as well.
How did the Donald J. Trump administration handle migrant flows?
For the last four years, U.S. immigration policy focused almost solely on stopping migrants from coming to; entering; or, if they reached the United States, staying in the country. The Trump administration forced Central American countries to sign “safe third country” agreements, which require asylum seekers to first seek refuge in neighboring countries before applying in the United States. It also narrowed the interpretation of what constitutes grounds for asylum, largely excluding the domestic or gang violence that so many flee. And it drastically lowered the annual U.S. cap on refugees from over one hundred thousand to just fifteen thousand.
For those migrants who did make it to the border, the Trump administration processed them. Later, it sent those waiting for their claims to be adjudicated back to Mexico under the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP), also known as the Remain in Mexico policy. The Mexican government, for its part, agreed to hold these tens of thousands of migrants indefinitely.
What is Joe Biden’s approach?
The Biden administration’s approach differs in that it looks to both manage the migrant flows and to change the situations on the ground that force people to leave their home countries. In his first weeks in office, Biden ended construction of the wall along the U.S. southern border and canceled the safe third country agreements with Northern Triangle countries. He is allowing some twenty-five thousand asylum seekers currently in Mexico under the MPP to enter the United States as they await a decision. On the campaign trail, Biden promised to invest $4 billion over his first term to address the root causes of migration, including through programs in Central American countries to reduce and prevent violence, help farmers set up irrigation systems or change crops, and create economic opportunities.
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President Joe Biden recently lifted travel restrictions on “primarily Muslim” countries that were put in place by the Trump administration—but there’s been a lot of misinformation about Trump’s restrictions. After an extensive and in-depth review of all threats posed by individuals from foreign countries by the DHS and the State Department, the President [initially] restricted entry from eight countries; Chad (later removed from the list), Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela, and Yemen, that were state sponsors of terrorism, provided safe havens for terrorists, or provided insufficient information to U.S. authorities. Chief Justice John Roberts said that Trump “undoubtedly fulfilled” the requirement in the statute that he determine if the entry of covered aliens would be “detrimental” to the interests of the country and our national security.
So we asked for policy changes and you gave:
-He stopped the wall that wasn't even close to being finished from being constructed
-He follows the international law on asylum processes
-He tries to address the root causes of immigration to reduce it
-He ended the muslim ban
Is this supposed to be what caused the massive immigration influx?