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Why shouldn't immigrants be expected to learn English? I know it's not the "official" Language of the US, but for about 200 years or so, every immigrant from every Country came here accepting the fact they were going to need to learn English to productively live in the USA. How and why did that change over the last 40-50 years? People can actually take their Citizenship Test in their native language. Sorry, but IMO that's freakin' nuts. Do Americans go anywhere on this Earth expecting other Countries to cater to English-only speaking ways?

Yeah we do.

Really? Name one, just one, Country where that happens anywhere near the way it does here.

Seriously? There are lots of Americans that are American-centric. That's why they have English lettering on a lot of stuff in, say, Russia, etc.

So they print Russian Government documents in English and other Languages? You can become a Russian citizen by taken a test in English or Spanish? You can "press 2" for English when calling a Russian company? I'd ask you to try again, but I'm afraid you would.

Posted by tangplay on 11/30/2017 5:47:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 11/30/2017 11:40:00 AM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 11/30/2017 10:40:00 AM (view original):
"...our views and our line of thinking"????? Wow Boris.

Just what is that please? I don't give a **** who you're the son of, that's a lot of chutzpah............
So your price to live in the U.S. is for someone to adopt YOUR views?

I say F. U. to that!!
I want it to be MY views!!! C'mon Boris, agree with me......... or you're out!!!
I was here first. I'm part native.

Can you feel the sarcasm...........

Let me rephrase. Follow our constitution. Learn our language. Treat women as equals. Native Americans were conquered, the settlers did not ask their permission for anything. No sarcasm, you are just plain wrong.

And if they do that, which most Muslims would, they are fine, right? Where's a statistic that most Muslim immigrants break US laws? Bueller? Bueller?

Most or some? I don't care about the laws as much as their culture. Treating women like 2nd class citizens and making them wear burkas to me is abuse.

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Posted by wylie715 on 11/29/2017 7:13:00 PM (view original):
yeah, its kind of like pointing to the Las Vegas shooting and saying all middle aged white men should be deported because they obviously shoot people.

Except in one case those people are already American citizens who have the right to live here as long as they want, and in the other they are NOT American citizens and are trying to (sometimes) illegally come and enjoy the privilege of living here.
Is it their fault they weren't born here? Of course not, but the entire planet can't live in America, if they want to.

There is no right to live in America, for ANYONE. There is a God-given right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Should we take that away from immigrants because of where they were born?

People born in this Country, to two citizens of this Country, don't have the right to live here? You've really taken your stupidity to a different level today.

Its a privilege, not a right, that's why you said that people who don't like it here can leave, remember?

You do know that people are allowed to give up their rights, don't you?
Like giving-up the right to be silent, which you should have started about 5 pages ago.
People born to citizens of the US, in the US, do not have a right to live here? Come on. Where do they have the right to live?

They have a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. If they can achieve that in the US, without hindering other's rights, they should have the right to be in the US. They should also have the right to leave the US to achieve their rights. So should every other person.

Posted by all3 on 12/1/2017 8:10:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 11/30/2017 10:32:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by tangplay on 11/30/2017 5:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 11/30/2017 11:00:00 AM (view original):
Why shouldn't immigrants be expected to learn English? I know it's not the "official" Language of the US, but for about 200 years or so, every immigrant from every Country came here accepting the fact they were going to need to learn English to productively live in the USA. How and why did that change over the last 40-50 years? People can actually take their Citizenship Test in their native language. Sorry, but IMO that's freakin' nuts. Do Americans go anywhere on this Earth expecting other Countries to cater to English-only speaking ways?

Yeah we do.

Really? Name one, just one, Country where that happens anywhere near the way it does here.

Seriously? There are lots of Americans that are American-centric. That's why they have English lettering on a lot of stuff in, say, Russia, etc.

So they print Russian Government documents in English and other Languages? You can become a Russian citizen by taken a test in English or Spanish? You can "press 2" for English when calling a Russian company? I'd ask you to try again, but I'm afraid you would.

I don't know, I don't live there, but I have talked to a russian who said that there was a lot of american influence there. I am not an expert though.

Posted by cccp1014 on 12/1/2017 8:30:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 11/30/2017 5:47:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 11/30/2017 11:40:00 AM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 11/30/2017 10:40:00 AM (view original):
"...our views and our line of thinking"????? Wow Boris.

Just what is that please? I don't give a **** who you're the son of, that's a lot of chutzpah............
So your price to live in the U.S. is for someone to adopt YOUR views?

I say F. U. to that!!
I want it to be MY views!!! C'mon Boris, agree with me......... or you're out!!!
I was here first. I'm part native.

Can you feel the sarcasm...........

Let me rephrase. Follow our constitution. Learn our language. Treat women as equals. Native Americans were conquered, the settlers did not ask their permission for anything. No sarcasm, you are just plain wrong.

And if they do that, which most Muslims would, they are fine, right? Where's a statistic that most Muslim immigrants break US laws? Bueller? Bueller?

Most or some? I don't care about the laws as much as their culture. Treating women like 2nd class citizens and making them wear burkas to me is abuse.

Like, a statistic that said that, say, immigrants break more laws than American born citizens, or that Muslims break more laws than an american born citizen. Something like that.

I mean, who cares about their culture if they follow the rules? If they harassed a woman, that's SEXUAL HARASSMENT. So find a stat that says that Muslims harass more people in the US than US citizens, Boris.

Comrade cccp meet Comrade Flynn

Flynn is a big nothing burger. YAWN!

Posted by tangplay on 12/1/2017 11:19:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by wylie715 on 11/29/2017 7:13:00 PM (view original):
yeah, its kind of like pointing to the Las Vegas shooting and saying all middle aged white men should be deported because they obviously shoot people.

Except in one case those people are already American citizens who have the right to live here as long as they want, and in the other they are NOT American citizens and are trying to (sometimes) illegally come and enjoy the privilege of living here.
Is it their fault they weren't born here? Of course not, but the entire planet can't live in America, if they want to.

There is no right to live in America, for ANYONE. There is a God-given right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Should we take that away from immigrants because of where they were born?

People born in this Country, to two citizens of this Country, don't have the right to live here? You've really taken your stupidity to a different level today.

Its a privilege, not a right, that's why you said that people who don't like it here can leave, remember?

You do know that people are allowed to give up their rights, don't you?
Like giving-up the right to be silent, which you should have started about 5 pages ago.
People born to citizens of the US, in the US, do not have a right to live here? Come on. Where do they have the right to live?

They have a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. If they can achieve that in the US, without hindering other's rights, they should have the right to be in the US. They should also have the right to leave the US to achieve their rights. So should every other person.

So in one post you say it's not a right, then in your next post you say it is a right. Makes you seem like you're arguing just to argue.

NO HE'S NOT!

YES HE IS!

Posted by tangplay on 12/1/2017 11:20:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by tangplay on 11/30/2017 5:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 11/30/2017 11:00:00 AM (view original):
Why shouldn't immigrants be expected to learn English? I know it's not the "official" Language of the US, but for about 200 years or so, every immigrant from every Country came here accepting the fact they were going to need to learn English to productively live in the USA. How and why did that change over the last 40-50 years? People can actually take their Citizenship Test in their native language. Sorry, but IMO that's freakin' nuts. Do Americans go anywhere on this Earth expecting other Countries to cater to English-only speaking ways?

Yeah we do.

Really? Name one, just one, Country where that happens anywhere near the way it does here.

Seriously? There are lots of Americans that are American-centric. That's why they have English lettering on a lot of stuff in, say, Russia, etc.

So they print Russian Government documents in English and other Languages? You can become a Russian citizen by taken a test in English or Spanish? You can "press 2" for English when calling a Russian company? I'd ask you to try again, but I'm afraid you would.

I don't know, I don't live there, but I have talked to a russian who said that there was a lot of american influence there. I am not an expert though.

So you tried to pass-off someone saying "there was a lot of American influence" in Russia as Russians being accepting of immigrants not learning Russian and the Russian government printing documents in various language. More proof you're just arguing to argue.

Posted by cccp1014 on 12/1/2017 3:14:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by laramiebob on 11/30/2017 10:40:00 AM (view original):
"...our views and our line of thinking"????? Wow Boris.

Just what is that please? I don't give a **** who you're the son of, that's a lot of chutzpah............
So your price to live in the U.S. is for someone to adopt YOUR views?

I say F. U. to that!!
I want it to be MY views!!! C'mon Boris, agree with me......... or you're out!!!
I was here first. I'm part native.

Can you feel the sarcasm...........

Let me rephrase. Follow our constitution. Learn our language. Treat women as equals. Native Americans were conquered, the settlers did not ask their permission for anything. No sarcasm, you are just plain wrong.

And if they do that, which most Muslims would, they are fine, right? Where's a statistic that most Muslim immigrants break US laws? Bueller? Bueller?

Most or some? I don't care about the laws as much as their culture. Treating women like 2nd class citizens and making them wear burkas to me is abuse.

Like, a statistic that said that, say, immigrants break more laws than American born citizens, or that Muslims break more laws than an american born citizen. Something like that.

I mean, who cares about their culture if they follow the rules? If they harassed a woman, that's SEXUAL HARASSMENT. So find a stat that says that Muslims harass more people in the US than US citizens, Boris.

Why am I your research monkey? Have I not educated you enough? Find your own stats.

Google Sharia Law and the UK and see what you find. You will learn something yet again. Problem is tangplay and I am sorry to be so harsh, but you are stupid and I am done educating you. Clearly you are hopeless. Here is my last link for you.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31794599

The burden of proof is on you, my friend.

Hmm. Interesting link. It does appear to show that more Muslims are in jail. However, the article itself lists stereotyping and other factors as a prime cause for this. Let me give you some now, to even it out:
http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/aug/03/antonio-villaraigosa/mostly-true-undocumented-immigrants-less-likely-co/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/no-islam-isnt-inherently-violent-and-the-math-proves-it
https://www.prri.org/spotlight/americans-double-standard-religious-violence/

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Posted by wylie715 on 11/29/2017 7:13:00 PM (view original):
yeah, its kind of like pointing to the Las Vegas shooting and saying all middle aged white men should be deported because they obviously shoot people.

Except in one case those people are already American citizens who have the right to live here as long as they want, and in the other they are NOT American citizens and are trying to (sometimes) illegally come and enjoy the privilege of living here.
Is it their fault they weren't born here? Of course not, but the entire planet can't live in America, if they want to.

There is no right to live in America, for ANYONE. There is a God-given right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Should we take that away from immigrants because of where they were born?

People born in this Country, to two citizens of this Country, don't have the right to live here? You've really taken your stupidity to a different level today.

Its a privilege, not a right, that's why you said that people who don't like it here can leave, remember?

You do know that people are allowed to give up their rights, don't you?
Like giving-up the right to be silent, which you should have started about 5 pages ago.
People born to citizens of the US, in the US, do not have a right to live here? Come on. Where do they have the right to live?

They have a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. If they can achieve that in the US, without hindering other's rights, they should have the right to be in the US. They should also have the right to leave the US to achieve their rights. So should every other person.

So in one post you say it's not a right, then in your next post you say it is a right. Makes you seem like you're arguing just to argue.

YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN THE US. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS WHICH CAN LEAD TO LIVING IN THE US.

Do you have the RIGHT to break the LAW of the United States of America?