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Quote: Originally Posted By robusk on 6/04/2010

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Quote: Originally Posted By robusk on 6/04/2010
I think I tried to trade for Ozuna a couple of times at some point from someone. I would build my whole franchise around low STA starters and low DUR position players if I could.

I think you have to pay particular attention when having a team full of these types. I always value them because their peripherals will be so high that they're worth exploiting, but it takes a lot more doting than I care to spend most of the time.

Nah. Have a solid bench with guys that can play lots of positions (while being good situational hitters) along with a staff that can hang tough at 11 men (usually the sort that you guys would consider glitchy or unrealistic) and it is really easy. Rarely do people play below 99%. NL, pitching park and you probably win 100 games checking a few times a week

I overvalue positional versatility in most matters. I tend to concentrate on those sorts and keep a few niche players active, just in case. Afforementioned speed guy, and I try to keep at least one high power guy handy. Just in case. A Matt Stairs, I guess.

Quote: Originally Posted By r0b0t on 6/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By robusk on 6/04/2010

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Quote: Originally Posted By robusk on 6/04/2010
Yeah, I say try and flip him if you think it is cost effective. I like your current options.

I'd be trading a middling corner outfielder with speed, who is an average at best leadoff man. The pitcher is actually pretty good, but very inconsistent, and probably the key piece. He has a good contract, but still wouldn't be bad for me to shed that salary.

Last piece is a good but not great closer, whose biggest attributes are durability and stamina. He is a tandem dream, like a poor man's Grieve, but his inflated overall meant I had to pay a steep price to keep him.

The deal would send my fourth outfielder and two good pitchers with a combined $14m in salaries per season for the next four seasons and get me someone I could swing for something cheaper and more reasonable.

Yeah, sounds good to me. I think you like speed a lot more than I do though, so I probably also like the deal more than you.

I like speed but I don't covet it, if that makes sense. I usually keep one speed guy on my team, just for match-ups and pinch-running in the playoffs. It has paid off for me at times. Speed is nice for guys who can casually steal 20+ bases while still being effective otherwise. Almanzar is one whose speed makes him special to me. Basically any time I have a very good player, I feel high speed and baserunning can make him great.

It means nothing without great baserunning, though.

Well yeah, I always think of BR and SPD as two sides of the same coin. Sort of worthless on their own (although I personally think SPD on its own relates to more extra bases).

I also always try my best to at least have some chump from AAA called up for playoff pinch running.

Baserunning still plays a part for the extra base hits, but speed alone does help beating double plays and infield singles. It has merit, but not the sort to overpay for. Hermanson in $ is one I loved for his speed, but wasn't worth his price when he wanted $6m as a free agent this year. Cheap speed is easy to find, especially on a bench guy with positional versatility.

I never want to overpay or overrank a player strictly for speed. Hence my apprehensiveness in that cribsheet thread about those centerfielders.

And, as I said before, a third season at a level is where you see patience become a serious issue. I can't justify that guy in the Majors without some improvements, but he won't get any better in AAA.

Well, I felt a lot differently than everyone else in the cribsheet so not sure I think the same as most.

And yeah, effective bench guys are easy and cheap.

I used to have a stud in another world but he always seemed to come up shorter than I wanted. He had some awesome seasons but I always craved more. He was 90s across the board, including speed but had 59 vR (also hit righthanded) and 30 BR. I feel those two ratings held him back from being as dominant as other guys I have seen.



Definitely no Woodie Jacobs.

Quote: Originally Posted By r0b0t on 6/04/2010And, as I said before, a third season at a level is where you see patience become a serious issue. I can't justify that guy in the Majors without some improvements, but he won't get any better in AAA

Well, you know a lot more about developing prospects than I do so I would certainly endorse your opinion in this case.

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Quote: Originally Posted By robusk on 6/04/2010
Well, I felt a lot differently than everyone else in the cribsheet so not sure I think the same as most.

And yeah, effective bench guys are easy and cheap.

I used to have a stud in another world but he always seemed to come up shorter than I wanted. He had some awesome seasons but I always craved more. He was 90s across the board, including speed but had 59 vR (also hit righthanded) and 30 BR. I feel those two ratings held him back from being as dominant as other guys I have seen.



Definitely no Woodie Jacobs.

59 vR is a killer

Quote: Originally Posted By robusk on 6/04/2010
Well, I felt a lot differently than everyone else in the cribsheet so not sure I think the same as most.

And yeah, effective bench guys are easy and cheap.

I used to have a stud in another world but he always seemed to come up shorter than I wanted. He had some awesome seasons but I always craved more. He was 90s across the board, including speed but had 59 vR (also hit righthanded) and 30 BR. I feel those two ratings held him back from being as dominant as other guys I have seen.



Definitely no Woodie Jacobs.

vR is something that can't be overvalued, in my mind. Especially when you'll see rotations entirely consisting of RHPs. Most of the pitchers you'll see are righties.

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i can't wait for the new forums

Sitting in midway airport waiting for my flight back home. I was supposed to have at 5 and now won't be leaving for another hour. This blows

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