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Quote: Originally posted by rlahann on 6/07/2010I think Pitt fits...more or less. It's a decent sized, average-good public university in the Rust Belt. Of that group, to me, the outliers are Syracuse, ND, and NW because of their size and private...um...ness? and Rutgers because of geography. Pitt actually seems like a natural fit for the Big 10.
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That'd leave the old Big 12 with Iowa State, Colorado, Kansas, and Kansas State as homeless. The two Kansas schools will likely be a package deal, and will carry more weight for their basketball prowess.

I could see some of the mid-tier schools like TCU, Houston, BYU, Utah, and Boise State coming in to fill that conference back up and keep the automatic bid potential, but there isn't the same history.

Big East would leave South Florida, West Virginia, Connecticut, Cincinnati, and Louisville.
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Quote: Originally Posted By robusk on 6/07/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By r0b0t on 6/07/2010

Big 16:

Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Michigan State, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska, Missouri, Rutgers, Syracuse, Notre Dame/Pittsburgh

Not sure how that'd be split into two divisions.

Seem more out of place than the others
They want the NYC market. Supposedly, of the Big East, Rutgers has the best shot at getting in. Recent rumors have that if they were to go to 16 teams, Syracuse would be in as well. Syracuse leaving for Men's Basketball might force Notre Dame to react. If ND chooses to stay independent, they'll pick up Pittsburgh.
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Quote: Originally Posted By rlahann on 6/07/2010I think Pitt fits...more or less. It's a decent sized, average-good public university in the Rust Belt. Of that group, to me, the outliers are Syracuse, ND, and NW because of their size and private...um...ness? and Rutgers because of geography. Pitt actually seems like a natural fit for the Big 10
The geography is the key. The Big Ten wanted to hit the NYC media market harder. It'd put pressure on the cable networks in that area to pick up the Big Ten Network, as well.

The Big Ten includes members of a certain academic group of like sixty something schools. Of the Big East, it's basically these three that meet that standard.

Penn State had been rumored to not want Pitt.
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Quote: Originally Posted By robusk on 6/07/2010
When is the decision being made?
Supposedly the Pac-10/Big-12 thing is coming to a head within a week. Big Ten had a 12 to 18 month timetable, but they will probably have to rush it now.

What is the financial model for the playoff system?
This doesn't guarantee a playoff system. It's more of an attempt to get those lucrative conference championship games in the conferences that previously didn't have them.

Is that still possible/more likely now?
It's possible, but I don't even know how the BCS would work with two conferences potentially being dissolved.

Does this cause a shakeup in the mid-major conferences?
The Big 12 might try to pick up the BYU/Utah/Boise State/TCU/Houston type of mid-major to maintain an automatic bid.

Are there still bowl games for non-playoff qualifiers if that happens? Doesn't this starve the have-nots even more?

There will still be bowl games for pretty much any team that qualifies.

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dmurphy's favorite golden girl passed away last week, does that count?
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If those two or three schools the Big East, they'd be with:

-Connecticut
-West Virginia
-Cincinnati
-Louisville
-South Florida
-Pittsburgh(?)

The problem is that the SEC would respond by picking up teams, too. I'm not sure if Kansas and Kansas State would appeal to them, but it would certainly add to the basketball prestige.

Louisville might be intriguing because they have a lot of boosters, a coach with an SEC pedigree in the two money sports, a potential rivalry with an old coach in football, and an in-state rivalry with Kentucky.

There'd been rumors of Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech, and Clemson all linked to an SEC opening. Those four would certainly seem more appealling than Kansas and Kansas State to me, but I'm not convinced that FSU and Miami would accept that switch. I think Clemson and Georgia Tech would go for it, though.
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So the SEC would probably draw a few from the ACC, and the ACC would in turn pick up a bunch from the Big East. The end result might actually make the conference even better in basketball, while still remaining good at football.

West Virginia has a pre-existing rivalry with Maryland. South Florida has been laying the other state schools regularly already. Connecticut might help them expand up the coast and closer to the Boston College campus.

I just don't think that Louisville or Cincinnati might be a part of the ACC realighment.
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Quote: Originally Posted By AceCards on 6/07/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By hugenuge42 on 6/06/2010
JLovicz grandmother died two weeks ago
My grandfather passed away last Tuesday
Sorry to hear that, Ace.
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Quote: Originally Posted By r0b0t on 6/07/2010Pac 16:

USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State

Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arizona, Arizona Stat
where's Colorado?
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