Emmy and Oscar Madison Topic

By comparison
Chicago Fire - 2,000 acres or 3 miles
Los Angeles - 16,000 acres or 25 miles and not even over.

In addition to super charged hurricanes this has been predicted for years as a consequence of climate change. Climate change creates the environment that would to much much more intense and uncontrollable fire. Much more drier and less water.

Nobody should think this kind of fire won’t happen again just like the emerging consistent catastrophic hurricanes.

People should think of getting out of Los Angeles.
And in my opinion the region of Florida in danger getting hit by the hurricanes almost every year will expand.

Intelligent fidelity to science and truth and resources and human decency needs to prevail.


People who have been willing to pay attention for years are not Nostradamus just people of sufficient intelligence and decency.
1/8/2025 10:44 PM
There is a vomit inducing story about Trump re the fire but I will get to that after the fire is contained. Right now 0% containment.
1/8/2025 10:46 PM
"Much more drier and less water."

Definitely not true in this particular instance, as Southern California has seen rainfall totals soar in the last two years.
If Newsom had built the reservoirs that tax payers voted for and have been paying for over the last decade the water hydrants would actually produce water.
1/8/2025 11:49 PM
Crazy misinformation HERE!!
1/9/2025 8:04 AM
1/9/2025 8:42 AM
Ironic thing about where these fires hit. It is where the celebrities live, not poor people. They may have to move to areas of Los Angeles far away from the extremely dry areas with trees and forests that burn uncontrollably. It ain’t getting better and they have this now every year but now worse then ever before.

The people who contort themselves into puppets screaming hoax hoax should stay put and for their homes I say burn baby burn or at least feel the heat. I don’t want any one to lose their house but they kinda deserve it for electing crazy politicians who are wackos and preventing ways to fight climate change.
1/9/2025 9:33 AM
Posted by Lennybruce26 on 1/8/2025 10:44:00 PM (view original):
By comparison
Chicago Fire - 2,000 acres or 3 miles
Los Angeles - 16,000 acres or 25 miles and not even over.

In addition to super charged hurricanes this has been predicted for years as a consequence of climate change. Climate change creates the environment that would to much much more intense and uncontrollable fire. Much more drier and less water.

Nobody should think this kind of fire won’t happen again just like the emerging consistent catastrophic hurricanes.

People should think of getting out of Los Angeles.
And in my opinion the region of Florida in danger getting hit by the hurricanes almost every year will expand.

Intelligent fidelity to science and truth and resources and human decency needs to prevail.


People who have been willing to pay attention for years are not Nostradamus just people of sufficient intelligence and decency.
L.A. Is My Lady

It has spread to about 30,000 acres and approximately 45 miles.

Most of the homes and businesses did not have property insurance because insurers dropped coverage such as State Farm like a good neighbor or so unaffordable.

I think that hard hitting climate change got here several years sooner then expected.

California has already lost a lot of residents over the past 5 years. There will be some type of exodus from LA and instead of going to a safer region they could go out of state.

Maybe go to cemented area without parks and trees and a lot of bushes and brushes and maybe stay away from places adjacent to the ocean.

A lot of people have been moving to Texas. They are next to Florida and hurricanes have hitting Southern Texas more over last few years.

Some people will never accept what is happening. They would rather give their middle finger to the “intelligencia” and mock people obviously way smarter with way more common sense and objectivity. Obviously because they insist on refuting the unrefutable.

We all live in a yellow submarine? More likely the titanic.
1/9/2025 4:50 PM
Mel Gibson lost his house Boo Hoo Boo Hoo.
Climate change has led to the conditions for the Los Angeles fires. Almost zero precipitation since October and dry conditions unlike ever before in an area ripe for fires.

I’m case you do not know it there was a person found with a tool for arson. It is believed that he might have set off one of the fires - The Kenneth Fire which has destroyed about 5% of the destruction.
Whatever he did or did not do it was caused long after the Los Angeles fires began.

No law enforcement or authorities or fire experts has entertained the idea that the Los Angeles fires was caused by arson.

The fire started during California’s fire season. But the combination of atypical dry conditions on the ground and very very unusual powerful winds creates a super spreader.

Even regarding the post Kenneth fire the climate change conditions created a platform for a faster spreading fire and it was started long after the Los aAngeles fires by the time that the Kenneth Fire there was a severe lack of water. Is someone tries to justify the belief that climate change is a hoax, we’ll have fun.
1/10/2025 10:33 AM
High temps very very low precipitation and drought causes trees and limbs to get dried out and “primed “ for wildfire. Unusual high winds cause spreading.
The dry drought conditions that existed prior to the Los Angeles fires was unprecedented.

source - NewsNation

The day before the mayor went on vacation which was the day before the fires she received a memo concerning anxiety that there could be an imminent wildfire because of the the extreme and unprecedented atmospheric condition and the unusual dryness of trees and bushes and vegetation which created a perfect storm.

Statistic - 10% of wildfires are caused by arson.
But when you have climate change conditions the chance for a powerful explosive fire occur much worse then previous arson fires.
Obviously.
1/10/2025 11:03 AM
So it's all THEIR fault......... the f'in environuts, eh................. Complete bullsh*T!!!!

It's Smoky the Bear's fault. And your Federal Government's Interior Department POLICIES over the last 100 years to be precise.

STOP BLAMING OTHERS FOR THE WORK OF OUR OWN GOVERNMENT!!!!

WE
are responsible for US! WE ARE the U.S. of A. Everyone of us. ALL! Even the nutjobs like you!

WE ARE WHAT WE ARE. RESPONSIBLE for our OWN MESS!

The bill is long overdue.
And we start paying this month.
Thanks to voters like you.
1/10/2025 11:58 AM
WHAT? You want to mow down more redwoods and ship them off to Japan?? Again???

Nutjob!
1/10/2025 12:54 PM
Setting loose the timber industry is certainly NOT the way to solve the problem.
Of course you are right about one thing............ no trees, less fires.

But none of this has ANYTHING to do with the fires presently underway in LA and Ventura Counties.
Not poor logging practices, not the absence of logging, Nor the environuts.

That's all an argument regarding the "management" or lack thereof of our National Lands.
Certainly NOT Pacific Palisades nor Malibu.

You are, as usual, just trying to divide folks by making it about politics.
It isn't!!
It's a horrid disaster and SHAME on YOU for trying to blame a particular group of left of center citizens at least primarily I suppose.
NOT all environmentalists are Lefties.
But I can't expect YOU to acknowledge that since you DEAL in misinformation and Lies!!
1/10/2025 1:00 PM
At the bottom of all of this I would like to know why the climate change deniers insist it is a hoax. Despite overwhelming evidence including the fact that over the last 10 years the highest recorded world temperature ever keeps happening. The latest was 2024 and it has exceeded the Paris agreement cap that it
sought to prevent.

And the overwhelming massive consensus of true experts with massive numbers from that community.

And the predictions and earnings made by the mocked Al Gore were proven and in some cases happening even faster.

To disregard proven facts and evidence and observations is the very evidence of insanity.
Or is a MAGA type of group delusion based upon a anti authority fervor or in other words the middle finger people vs people who are willing to listen to evidence and actually support and respect science and evidence and have no jealousy or anger towards the most intelligent and responsible people among us.

It is one of the dilemmas of our time and it goes hand in glove with the MAGA mentality of kooks and crazies and lovers of authoritarians and a whole lot of dumb.
1/10/2025 1:06 PM
And regarding the suspect arrested re Kenneth Fire there is not at the moment any evidence that he started it. Fact is that he was caught because the homeless man was riding around in a neighborhood on A BIke with a blow torch and propane yelling and screaming I can’t stop I can’t stop I have to do this. Don’t stop. And he tried to start a fire on some grass in absolute plain sight.

Im not saying that he could not have caused the Kenneth fire but it does not look like he did that fire.
1/10/2025 1:19 PM (edited)
Posted by DougOut on 1/10/2025 12:10:00 PM (view original):
Thank you for reading the article. I have a ton more just like it.

SO.....since you know it's complete BS, perhaps you could point out 4 or 5 of the obvious lies in the above post.

THANKS IN ADVANCE!!! We'll be waiting.
HEY!

Anytime. Ready when you are. You can number them if you like. Or just make a list.

THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
1/10/2025 8:32 PM
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