Posted by tangplay on 12/20/2017 10:49:00 PM (view original):
Strikeout is correct (at least to my understanding) in his interpretation of the bible. By saying, 'we need redemptive violence' and calling me an idiot for disagreeing, you called all practicing Christians idiots. Congratulations.

Were the Templars practicing Christians? You are an idiot. Pacifists generally are.

Posted by cccp1014 on 12/21/2017 8:25:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 12/20/2017 10:49:00 PM (view original):
Strikeout is correct (at least to my understanding) in his interpretation of the bible. By saying, 'we need redemptive violence' and calling me an idiot for disagreeing, you called all practicing Christians idiots. Congratulations.

Were the Templars practicing Christians? You are an idiot. Pacifists generally are.

While Tang and me fall on the opposite ends of the political spectrum, his interpretation of this text is correct. You referenced the "turn the other cheek" verse. If you read further into that chapter, Jesus goes on to say this:

43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor[g] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,[h] 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren[i] only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors[j] do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

And...? Were the Templars Christians or not? Were they pacifists?

Of course and of course not, but I wasn't talking about what the templars believed. I was talking about what the Bible says.

on a side note, I think it's hilarious that there has been ongoing, intertwined conversation between taxes and Christianity and in the verses I quoted Jesus is basically bashing tax collectors. I just caught that.

I guess people have never liked taxes. LOL

My point is that people like tangplay are idiots, regardless of beliefs. I am pretty sure that Muslim extremists could not care less about Jesus' teachings and will gladly chop your head off as you pray at them.

strikeout - That is pretty funny, however I don't interpret it as that Jesus hates taxes, more that the taxes were going to a corrupt government filled with greed and the tax collectors embodied that.

cccp - The point went RIGHT over your head. MUSLIMS. ARE. NOT. CHRISTIANS. The point was that we, as Christians, should love our enemies, turn the other cheek, so that we are on the good side, and God will take care of the rest. If I need to be a martyr, so be it.

Wow. You are clinically insane. Thank you for sharing.

hey commie, think you can get through a post without calling someone an idiot or insane?

Posted by tangplay on 12/21/2017 11:41:00 AM (view original):
strikeout - That is pretty funny, however I don't interpret it as that Jesus hates taxes, more that the taxes were going to a corrupt government filled with greed and the tax collectors embodied that.

cccp - The point went RIGHT over your head. MUSLIMS. ARE. NOT. CHRISTIANS. The point was that we, as Christians, should love our enemies, turn the other cheek, so that we are on the good side, and God will take care of the rest. If I need to be a martyr, so be it.

I agree, Jesus did not hate taxes (see Mark 12:17). As you said, the 1st century Roman government had many issues. Tax collectors were looked down upon because they were openly known as cheats.

Posted by strikeout26 on 12/21/2017 1:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 12/21/2017 11:41:00 AM (view original):
strikeout - That is pretty funny, however I don't interpret it as that Jesus hates taxes, more that the taxes were going to a corrupt government filled with greed and the tax collectors embodied that.

cccp - The point went RIGHT over your head. MUSLIMS. ARE. NOT. CHRISTIANS. The point was that we, as Christians, should love our enemies, turn the other cheek, so that we are on the good side, and God will take care of the rest. If I need to be a martyr, so be it.

I agree, Jesus did not hate taxes (see Mark 12:17). As you said, the 1st century Roman government had many issues. Tax collectors were looked down upon because they were openly known as cheats.

We finally agree on things, strikeout! It's a miracle!

Posted by cccp1014 on 12/21/2017 11:46:00 AM (view original):
Wow. You are clinically insane. Thank you for sharing.

Soooooooooooooooooo you are calling all practicing Christians insane? Thanks for sharing.

Posted by tangplay on 12/21/2017 1:31:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 12/21/2017 1:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 12/21/2017 11:41:00 AM (view original):
strikeout - That is pretty funny, however I don't interpret it as that Jesus hates taxes, more that the taxes were going to a corrupt government filled with greed and the tax collectors embodied that.

cccp - The point went RIGHT over your head. MUSLIMS. ARE. NOT. CHRISTIANS. The point was that we, as Christians, should love our enemies, turn the other cheek, so that we are on the good side, and God will take care of the rest. If I need to be a martyr, so be it.

I agree, Jesus did not hate taxes (see Mark 12:17). As you said, the 1st century Roman government had many issues. Tax collectors were looked down upon because they were openly known as cheats.

We finally agree on things, strikeout! It's a miracle!

Haha. Hopefully you will have a paradigm shift and see the light on a couple of other issues as well.

Posted by cccp1014 on 12/20/2017 4:51:00 PM (view original):
Templars practiced Christianity too. The phrase "turn the other cheek" does not mean don't strike back. It means turn so that they slap you with the forehand as an equal not the backhand that was used to slap those subservient to the attacker. While you're praying they are practicing in their terror camps to end you.

Do you at least see, partially, where I am coming from with this?

A Jew explaining Christianity? Oh course, that's why he is a trump fan. Arrogance!

Christians suck at explaining the Old Testament. As Lewis Black says "It's not their fault, because it's not their book."

Lew explains it all...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfqTYeGim2E

I am sure you thought you were making a point