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The US/USSR plan for Ukraine is for Russia to take over certain land as an occupier and not as owner.
They say it is like Israel occupying the West Bank.

But that is a lot of smoke.

Israel does not want the West Bank. At least never before Netanyahu. And even he apparently recognizes and accepts that the West Bank is to be part of a Palestinian state if they should ever decide that they want a state.

It is occupied because they cannot form a state without Gaza which leads to them being
occupied to protect Israel from attack from their territory. And also to protect and maintain the political status quo.

So they are occupied to protect the occupier.


Russia would occupy to later take the land away and make it Russia. They are the aggressor and are not attacked by Ukraine from any land that is Ukraine.

So the plan is a lie and a false pretense and WILL lead to Russia stealing the land. Politically and if needed militarily.

When Trump said for the betterment of both countries that was true only for Russia.
8/13/2025 12:58 PM (edited)
Trump does not have leverage over Russia.
All of the experts say the sanctions mean nothing and they will not lose the oil buyers.

Could Trump even try to
stand up to Putin? I’m sure not. Putin just smiles and laughs in Trump’s face.

The only thing important to Trump is a shiny object. Something that he can call peace.
He could give a flying f if he sells Ukraine down the river.
What Trump wants is a Noble Peace prize.

He is just a pos. To be nice about it.
He is also reportedly offering Russia Ukrainian minerals if there is a deal.

This is bad stuff and if he and the republicans did not stop and or limit aid to Ukraine then Zelensky would have won a war of attrition.
No doubt about it.

Forcing the surrender of land to the fascist is not peace. But it is the way of Trump. Donald Dung.

8/14/2025 8:27 AM
This country could be on the road to recovery if Faux News would refute just 50% of Trump’s most significant lies.
Dream on.

The anti woke are nothing without labels hostile accusations downright hatred fear mongering and polarizing.
The truth is that they are the true American snowflakes and the biggest putrid breath cowards since conscientious objectors in world war 2.
8/15/2025 11:00 AM
Compromised Some?

Oh Vladimir. Oh Vladimir my love.
Once again just like Helsinki..Putin is the pitcher and Trump is the catcher.
Vladimir stop. Trump is Putin’s *itch
He really is.
About 100 million Americans felt like they got Ptomain poisoning and could not stop the nausea and vomiting and sinking sinking feeling.

It was as horrible as it could be. Putin really was smiling like Chuck Barris and laughing like Cesar Romero. In Trump’s face. Red carpet for a mass murderer terrorist who kidnaps 20,000 children to make them Russians to replace his dead soldiers.
Red carpet for a Hitler.

Dream on about “consequences “ Let’s play kick the can and make believe negotiation. It isn’t weakness - it is being compromised.

Trump tries to bully every person in thef entire world but when he sees Putin he is whispering sweet nothings in Putin ‘s ear. Down come the pants and I won’t get graphic.

Sickening attempt to sound like he is an equal. Back to strong evidence of being compromised and under Putin’s thumb. The USA voted for it and deserves it.

The sound of disappointment and depression that his “friend” gave him nothing nada zilch zero because he is not a friend. Just a handler. Trump the poor sad clown unloved and used.

Peace price down the drain.

Yeah Trump is so powerful he would have prevented a war if he was president. The morons brain damaged sheep eat that up. Yet Yrump
cannot even get a cease fire. How is that for influence and respect and friendship. More like Charlie McCarthy.

Putin was being derisive when he buttered up Trump. Hamming it up. Having a grand old time with the American president.
Too much vomiting to even feel sad about it.

MAGA will talk themselves into seeing and hearing an illusion. They hear what they want to hear and see what they want to see and believe what they are told.
Every MAGA true believer follower is a combo of the 3 monkeys.
8/16/2025 6:13 AM (edited)
Since the above it now is being reported that Trump capitulated. Entirely. He sold Ukraine AND Europe down the River.

Bullet points:

- Russia would get all of Dombus including a huge amount of unconquered Donbus.

- Donbus is very rich in precious minerals so Russia would get them.

- Russia would become an official language of Ukraine ( get it ? ).

- Russia would stipulate to not attack Ukraine anymore ( they also will sell you a bridge ).

- Ukraine can have protective troops from Europe or USA ( Trump won’t send anything to write home about ) So Russia will have 3 and 1/2 years to find a pretext to restart the war with a strong base in Dombus.

- Ukraine agrees to no NATO.

- NO CEASEFIRE! The war goes on until Ukraine becomes a signatory. Trump could not even get a ceasefire. Such a magic moment.

Putin dictated and Trump took shorthand.
It is a cowardly new world.

What happens next is yet to be written but all of the instincts of the people with insight and intellectual honesty have been borne out as correct.
It really doesn’t take very much insight unless you think that first grade arithmetic is insight.

Trump got NOTHING except a pair of short pants and a canister of borscht.

Now Ukraine will go to DC. To agree with the framework ? and negotiate at the edges?
Will Trump and Vance browbeat Zelensky like an enemy?

Get your barf bags.
8/16/2025 1:28 PM (edited)
All of the major leaders from Europe and NATO had to go with the man who actually does deserve to be called Vladimir.

Such is the total distrust and disgust and most certainly hatred that the group of extraordinary gentleman and ladies have toward Trump. I think that the term piece of Trump is a proper description of what they think he is.

What must be achieved?

- A public relations victory. They must impress the unfortunate Americans who vote Republican and the republican congress. They must inform cajole and shame them. And pray that the congress will pass legislation to send military aid to Ukraine.

- They must put Trump on the spot and imply incompetence and worse if he does not help in some way.

- They will prevent another lynching and attempted murder of Zelensky by 2 evil men who kiss Putin’s butt in addition to some other things. If there is a better word for evil I’ll listen. This is not some academic exercise. It is about the lives of millions of Ukrainians and their liberty and sovereignty. And getting back kidnapped children abducted by Eastern European Nazis.
Call me extreme but for American leaders to be supporting Russia then some degree of evil would have to be involved. My apologies to blackened snow flakes.

- They will speak to non European countries who might agree to step up.

- They will give confidence and comfort to the Brave defiant amazing Ukrainians.

- They will try to shame Trump ( is that a possible thing ) into selling more arms to Europe to give to Ukraine.

- They will exert pressure like threatening reciprocal tariffs if necessary. How would Trump like dem apples now.

- They will stand united against a maniac who is clearly obviously and definitely compromised by Putin.

- Could the senate override a trump veto of arms to Ukraine? - ?????

So that is some of the stuff.

I would like to see little NATO countries do what they can in terms of buying weapons and producing ammo and anything else they can and sending food.

Id like to see Canada and others set up factories to mass produce Ukrainian drones.
A lot can be done.

- Propaganda and lies and Putin/Trump tricks must be attacked or refuted.

This is for all the marbles.
8/17/2025 3:08 PM (edited)
Ronald Reagan was the man who practiced voodoo economics. He was a bad domestic policies president but an unbelievable foreign policy president.
Like LBJ where he was great he was spectacular!!

So he was in my book a great president. His one big accomplishment gets cemented into one of the greatest things that any president ever did. He crushed the Soviet Union. It did not hurt that The USSR was run by a pragmatic realist and civilized human being but each met their challenge head on with strength and grace. Gorbachev did surrender and Reagan gave him the way to do it with dignity.

Reagan changed the future dynamics for handling Russia. Stay the course. And so we did with Bush 1 and Clinton and Bush 2 but he got played a bit and
Obama and Biden were tough warriors in the Reagan / Bush 1 mold.

Then we got Trump. Compromised clinical narcissist ( that term is watered down by the casual every day usage which is not psychiatric! ) wildly immature ( a dangerous man boy) evil and corrupt and money hungry and the biggest liar in the history of American politics.

Trump has had 2 major challenges that came to him.He failed dangerously. He lied over and over about Covid starting with leveling with the country and later after downplaying it fighting with the doctors over mandatory policies and vaccines and masks all of which led to hundreds of thousands of excess deaths and the WORST rate of death of EVERY major industrial nations in THE ENTIRE WORLD.
Even countries that are packed like sardines like Israel did much better. 17th worst per capita of every country in the world including third world countries.

Then comes Russia. He is compromised so decision making is an illusion.
But if he followed Biden and armed Ukraine he could have crushed Russia. Biden was slowed down by the maga congress sheep but he kept Ukraine strong. Maga forced him to have to play Israel aid against Ukraine aid. History will tell the story about the Trump led maga congress.

If Trump kept Ukraine strong and fired salvos on the Russian economy - relentless sanctions eventually whether in his term or the next Russia would have been defeated just like Reagan Bush.

What a terrible failure and disgrace of a president and a party. Trump is a degenerate traitor.

BTW - He is more afraid of Putin or the Epstein files and is Putin involved with the secrets of the Epstein files and maybe what isn’t even in the files? Maybe.
8/18/2025 11:24 AM (edited)
Trump is one of the all time greats in kicking the can.
When will he start to kick the bucket.
8/19/2025 11:03 AM
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And Too Much

I hate to have to wax nostalgic for democracy
but we are becoming a dystopia country if not already and dragging chunks of the world with us.

And there is no doubt that there is going to be violence eventually whether via extreme anti dictatorship elements or by the police state.
Give me the old days when the bums were worried about their boogie man deep state.

Now Gabbard has gotten rid of about half of the DNI. The ones she will hire will be MAGA ideologues ie a bunch of conspiracy theorists and mentally unbalanced people.
She is taking intelligent out of intelligence.

AND Trump is according to major news outlets about to send American troops into Mexico to hunt down the cartels. It happens to be at a time when he has just been humiliated as a neutered skunk after kissing the feet of Putin and serving as his press secretary.

He is not weak he is compromised. Don’t think twice about that. It is a fact Jack in the real world.

He is readying for a wag the dog war that will have reverberating consequences.

Claudia is a tough cookie. She is smart very smart and she takes shiit off of nobody.

She has warned Trump not to do it. If he does I think she will put an embargo on trade with the USA. There will be an anti American economy and a huge team of Canada Mexico. F Scott Fitzgerald Trump.

And there could be military exchange which will stun the world.

If it happens isolationism will expand. This Island America.

And Trump’s “peace effort” was an abject failure by any metrics.
He got zero literally the number zero and in terms of world opinion less then zero. The null set I would call it or is it an empty set.

Things are getting worse by the day. The police state is happening and the Republican Party should be feared. Democracy is going into quicksand.

I worry about Kent State stuff. The military has a whole lot of dumb right wing ideologues. They have amnesia about Jan 6 and think that pro democracy is a leftwing conspiracy. Woe is us.
8/20/2025 11:03 PM (edited)
So the big brand bill steals trillions on trillions from the treasury.

And throws 17 million starting January off health insurance ( Americans will die people will get seriously sick and families will be devestated due to the beautiful bill - the Dems will get blamed by millions ).

And kills indispensable programs causing more pain and devastation and punishment ( for being poor or the wrong color ).

But the tariffs will put some NOT all back into the treasury. BUT the programs still gone and the 17 million still no health insurance. Say what?

And prices keep going up and up and away and inflation setting records. Causing a lot more pain to the poor and middle class.

Weird math.
8/21/2025 10:52 AM
Be careful about reading Trump’s job favorability polls. The reports of his political demise can be greatly exaggerated.

Realclear politics gives you a number based on a bunch of pollsters over a 30 day period. They add them up and divide.

The problem is that most of the pollsters are not even in the top 10 for accuracy. So the final average number is not accurate. Trump’s underwater status is simply not true. When he is underwater it is not -8 or -11. I’m sorry to say that YouGov for example is not a top pollster and they always over estimate the Dems and underestimate Trump.

Since the 2024 election I look at 3 pollsters. AtlasIntel and Rasmussin and Insider Advantage. AtlasIntel puts out their results infrequently probably it is their process. A few months ago they had Trump -4.
But they are not current. They are the best pollster.

The other 2 are in the 2-5 ranking. As of today Rasmussin is a tie and Insider Advantage is + 10. They are the only 2 top top pollsters with a number right now. Insider Advantage is too high but on the correct side of the ledger probably.

Rasmussin is probably the most accurate but while +10 may seem crazy I think 50/50 to + 2-3. is the closest to reality. If I am anything I am a realist and I seek objective truth.

So fellow Trump haters do not revel in the polls.

Some other time I am going to take a close look at the generic party polling. That is an important metric.

I am not ready for mirth and merrymaking.

The real numbers do however reflect what I always say about the mind boggling fact of the extent of how dumb of a country we live in.
We live essentially in the “what are you talking about there is nobody lying here in bed with me” & Believe me not your lying eyes.

tbc
8/22/2025 9:07 AM (edited)
Do Not Trust The Process

Maybe the “deep state” was a team of very intelligent and talented professionals who were defending democracy and American ideals with accountability and responsibility and maturity and intellect. Normal people but with tremendous talent. And there was a deep bench.

Down deep whether they will admit it or not the overall majority of magsters know this. The “deep state” was not vindictive or very biased. They had the good qualities that the new not very deep state shuns. The new deep state operates with mean spirited ideologies based on extreme insecurity conspiracy beliefs anger with hatred and revenge. And far less intellect.

It is like pro sports. The agencies now especially intelligence agencies are losing all of the best players.
They are getting cut and replaced with franchise killing bad players. There is now little talent on the teams but a lot of salary cap space. However the draft class is becoming bereft of gifted players and has become now very thin.

The talented players are going into other sports or leagues overseas. The new players are not coached well from grade school up. Selfish players who play dirty do not play defense and have poor ball handling skills. And there is a lack of aptitude for the basics.

We are in the middle of a brain drain and unbelievably it is intentional.
8/23/2025 4:40 AM (edited)
THERE WILL BE BLOOD

There is already violence because of the Trump policies and it will get worse.
There have already been 2 violent mobs of about 15 people each literally fighting with ICE.
One person pulled a knife. One mob in Dallas of all places and one in SF.

People are getting angrier by the day. I think the s will hit the fan when lower middle class and poor people find out how the billionaire bill have devastated them.
The health insurance and programs alone are going to bring things to a boil.

The MAGA worshipers do not comprehend and make no mistake they do not care about what is happening. Moreover when they are informed they suffer self induced retrograde amnesia.
Do you ever notice that when they are put in the spot they quickly change the subject in a very intellectually dishonest way. For example I was talking to a very good friend of mine - very smart guy. I mentioned RFK jr - I thought that was neutral - I was talking about the danger coming because of him. Right away my friend brings up Edward Kennedy and Chapaquidic. I just nodded and said that yes his character was bad also.

They think with a blind spot like a driver who does not see a car in their blind spot.

The policy being taken against immigrants and especially undocumented immigrants is fascism. It is a fact not an opinion. No rights no due process heaps of hatred revenge and retaliation retribution and the treatment of good people as vicious criminals and animals.

The incipient police state is spreading and needs to be understood with reality.
8/24/2025 6:54 AM (edited)
THERE WILL BE BLOOD PART 2

Trump loves a man in a uniform. He craves the show of force. It seems like they are all around the city capitols. Will he put them in the neighborhoods where there is the most crime. Probably not. He will have his force arrest people for talking back and spitting in the street. There will be plenty of stupid unjustified arrests
to cow people.

But I think there is another reason why he is putting uniformed National Guard in urban cities. I really do think that he wants them to be there for the next election to scare people away from voting or to use them in some way to corrupt the system including maybe the counting process. They are going to be used in some way to corruptly influence the elections.

AND I think actual military are going to be added in significant numbers as a big part of his plan to dominate the cities.

We are not yet near the tipping point but we will get there.

And get ready for fake law enforcement statistics and fake economic statistics.

You can call it the degradation of the government and the democracy that is our form and you can say it is happening by degrees but it is happening right in our faces.

Peaceful protest will give way to anger in the streets as courts enable him and all of the agencies that are supposed to protect us are taken over corruptly in a Nazi way. The revenge retribution arrests shows that we are well on our way.
8/24/2025 7:11 AM (edited)
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