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Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 4:19:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

Yes.

I agree with you in principal. But, since we are a nation of laws (as opposed to edicts,) the technicality that is the constitution kinda governs what a "good" candidate is. Candidates that understand the constitution and want to work within it...even if that means amending it...are the only candidates that should get due attention.

Too many candidates these days want to circumvent it, think it is obsolete or otherwise want to rule by ignoring it. The constitution sets forth clear and obvious limitations...limitations on governmental power, that is. That drives some to the brink of insanity. Most who occupy Congress at the current time would fall into this category, political party notwithstanding.

too many candidates these days want to circumvent the constitution is right

they are called textualists and originalists

they fail to regard the constitution as a living document




they pare back the green so severely all they see is the bulb

the whole point of amendments is to CHANGE the constitution

every successive amendment grows a new constituion

you don't peel the layers off to get to the true onion

you respect the last change most

you eat the whole onion

People that want to circumvent the constitution have hidden under umbrellas given to them to trick people into thinking they are of an elite stripe of scholarship.

When autocrats speak listen up and take them seriously. They are laser focused and no amount of criticism will deter them from their course.

Weak lame brains think that such politicians are strong and worthy of being glorified especially as demagogues while such judges are the true god like protectors of mosaic law brought into American constitutional law to guide the non believers.

We are not in the age of Aquarius.
Bruce Springsteen is a Bo Diddly guy.

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/16/2023 8:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

What you said scares the shiit out of me.
That way of perceiving things is how we got to Jan 6 and why the body politic is clinging to life and will flat line unless more standard republicans become independents and dems and more independents become dems.

Right now there are so many smart really talented dems and we have a president that has kept so many promises and produced such prodigious results.

I know this will make you angry Wylie but I wonder why you are not able to draw a wider line between the 2 parties. If you can’t really see what is right before your eyes either open your eyes And your ears or give in to the architecture of fear.
A lot of independents ignore republicans but belittle dems and insist that they be more then perfect even when it is only / only the dems that will protect their way of life.

people calling themselves independents are usually embarrassed republicans or dopes. Sometimes not of those 2 but most of the time yes.
if course IMO.

you know what? I don't really care if my opinion scares the **** out of you. It scares me that you are unable to see that while most democrats are better than most republicans, that's not a very high bar to get over. Yes, there are some dems who are decent. I'm sure there are 1 or 2 republicans who are decent, you just never hear about them. I get you don't agree with me, and that's fine. I don't agree with everything you post either.
And why would it make me angry? I know how you feel about this. We happen to disagree. People disagreeing with my opinions does not make me angry. People with totally closed minds and who can't think for themselves (I'm looking at you, lnf) make me angry.

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 10:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/16/2023 8:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

What you said scares the shiit out of me.
That way of perceiving things is how we got to Jan 6 and why the body politic is clinging to life and will flat line unless more standard republicans become independents and dems and more independents become dems.

Right now there are so many smart really talented dems and we have a president that has kept so many promises and produced such prodigious results.

I know this will make you angry Wylie but I wonder why you are not able to draw a wider line between the 2 parties. If you can’t really see what is right before your eyes either open your eyes And your ears or give in to the architecture of fear.
A lot of independents ignore republicans but belittle dems and insist that they be more then perfect even when it is only / only the dems that will protect their way of life.

people calling themselves independents are usually embarrassed republicans or dopes. Sometimes not of those 2 but most of the time yes.
if course IMO.

you know what? I don't really care if my opinion scares the **** out of you. It scares me that you are unable to see that while most democrats are better than most republicans, that's not a very high bar to get over. Yes, there are some dems who are decent. I'm sure there are 1 or 2 republicans who are decent, you just never hear about them. I get you don't agree with me, and that's fine. I don't agree with everything you post either.
And why would it make me angry? I know how you feel about this. We happen to disagree. People disagreeing with my opinions does not make me angry. People with totally closed minds and who can't think for themselves (I'm looking at you, lnf) make me angry.

What you don’t agree with me on is that :

1. Way most dems are way most better then the safest Republican. I would say every fed dem I would have to think hard about 2. You describe the tipping of the scale by an extra pebble. You could not be more wrong.

2. The democrats have a platform ( which you always leave out ) that they ascribe to and legislate to live up to and that agenda is unbelievably modern and productive and helps the country thrive. You ignore it
as if it is non existent and or not tethered to each democrat.

3. Republicans also follow their doomsday let’s go to hell and back agenda which you also ignore and leave out of your comparison.

4. I forgot 4 but I’ll let you know when I remember.

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/16/2023 10:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bagchucker3 on 7/16/2023 8:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 4:19:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

Yes.

I agree with you in principal. But, since we are a nation of laws (as opposed to edicts,) the technicality that is the constitution kinda governs what a "good" candidate is. Candidates that understand the constitution and want to work within it...even if that means amending it...are the only candidates that should get due attention.

Too many candidates these days want to circumvent it, think it is obsolete or otherwise want to rule by ignoring it. The constitution sets forth clear and obvious limitations...limitations on governmental power, that is. That drives some to the brink of insanity. Most who occupy Congress at the current time would fall into this category, political party notwithstanding.

too many candidates these days want to circumvent the constitution is right

they are called textualists and originalists

they fail to regard the constitution as a living document




they pare back the green so severely all they see is the bulb

the whole point of amendments is to CHANGE the constitution

every successive amendment grows a new constituion

you don't peel the layers off to get to the true onion

you respect the last change most

you eat the whole onion

People that want to circumvent the constitution have hidden under umbrellas given to them to trick people into thinking they are of an elite stripe of scholarship.

When autocrats speak listen up and take them seriously. They are laser focused and no amount of criticism will deter them from their course.

Weak lame brains think that such politicians are strong and worthy of being glorified especially as demagogues while such judges are the true god like protectors of mosaic law brought into American constitutional law to guide the non believers.

We are not in the age of Aquarius.
Bruce Springsteen is a Bo Diddly guy.

This is good stuff, Lenny. One of the best posts of the day.

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/17/2023 2:11:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/16/2023 10:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bagchucker3 on 7/16/2023 8:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 4:19:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

Yes.

I agree with you in principal. But, since we are a nation of laws (as opposed to edicts,) the technicality that is the constitution kinda governs what a "good" candidate is. Candidates that understand the constitution and want to work within it...even if that means amending it...are the only candidates that should get due attention.

Too many candidates these days want to circumvent it, think it is obsolete or otherwise want to rule by ignoring it. The constitution sets forth clear and obvious limitations...limitations on governmental power, that is. That drives some to the brink of insanity. Most who occupy Congress at the current time would fall into this category, political party notwithstanding.

too many candidates these days want to circumvent the constitution is right

they are called textualists and originalists

they fail to regard the constitution as a living document




they pare back the green so severely all they see is the bulb

the whole point of amendments is to CHANGE the constitution

every successive amendment grows a new constituion

you don't peel the layers off to get to the true onion

you respect the last change most

you eat the whole onion

People that want to circumvent the constitution have hidden under umbrellas given to them to trick people into thinking they are of an elite stripe of scholarship.

When autocrats speak listen up and take them seriously. They are laser focused and no amount of criticism will deter them from their course.

Weak lame brains think that such politicians are strong and worthy of being glorified especially as demagogues while such judges are the true god like protectors of mosaic law brought into American constitutional law to guide the non believers.

We are not in the age of Aquarius.
Bruce Springsteen is a Bo Diddly guy.

This is good stuff, Lenny. One of the best posts of the day.

Thank you, Jay. I really appreciate that very much.

DeSantis campaign which is said to be hemorrhaging money with a negative rate of return just fired 12 main staffers.
One might expect at least a few providing some tasty morsels to the press.

If you can’t stand the heat get off of the world.
If it isn’t happening then what is. As Chump might say,
no one has ever seen anything like this before.

Big pre trial hearing tomorrow in Trump Florida Docs case. Big Bang.

The people attending Trump rallies are not cheering as loud and many sit on their hands.


If Zuckerberg fights Musk I want to see a sumo match between Trump and Christie.

DeSantis campaign which is said to be hemorrhaging money with a negative rate of return just fired 12 main staffers.
One might expect at least a few providing some tasty morsels to the press.

If you can’t stand the heat get off of the world.
If it isn’t happening then what is. As Chump might say,
no one has ever seen anything like this before.

Big pre trial hearing tomorrow in Trump Florida Docs case. Big Bang.

The people attending Trump rallies are not cheering as loud and many sit on their hands.


If Zuckerberg fights Musk I want to see a sumo match between Trump and Christie.

If Christie debates Trump there will be vicious and malicious cuts back and forth. Christie will be all legalistic and such while Trump would be first grader nasty.

Sickening Quote of The Day

I think that I will make this a frequent feature.

Today from Donald Trump.
He was questioned about Judge Cannon and the motion to delay before her.
He says thst she is smart and strong and that she loves her country and that it is important that she loves her country because she will do the right thing.

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/17/2023 1:01:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 10:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/16/2023 8:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

What you said scares the shiit out of me.
That way of perceiving things is how we got to Jan 6 and why the body politic is clinging to life and will flat line unless more standard republicans become independents and dems and more independents become dems.

Right now there are so many smart really talented dems and we have a president that has kept so many promises and produced such prodigious results.

I know this will make you angry Wylie but I wonder why you are not able to draw a wider line between the 2 parties. If you can’t really see what is right before your eyes either open your eyes And your ears or give in to the architecture of fear.
A lot of independents ignore republicans but belittle dems and insist that they be more then perfect even when it is only / only the dems that will protect their way of life.

people calling themselves independents are usually embarrassed republicans or dopes. Sometimes not of those 2 but most of the time yes.
if course IMO.

you know what? I don't really care if my opinion scares the **** out of you. It scares me that you are unable to see that while most democrats are better than most republicans, that's not a very high bar to get over. Yes, there are some dems who are decent. I'm sure there are 1 or 2 republicans who are decent, you just never hear about them. I get you don't agree with me, and that's fine. I don't agree with everything you post either.
And why would it make me angry? I know how you feel about this. We happen to disagree. People disagreeing with my opinions does not make me angry. People with totally closed minds and who can't think for themselves (I'm looking at you, lnf) make me angry.

What you don’t agree with me on is that :

1. Way most dems are way most better then the safest Republican. I would say every fed dem I would have to think hard about 2. You describe the tipping of the scale by an extra pebble. You could not be more wrong.

2. The democrats have a platform ( which you always leave out ) that they ascribe to and legislate to live up to and that agenda is unbelievably modern and productive and helps the country thrive. You ignore it
as if it is non existent and or not tethered to each democrat.

3. Republicans also follow their doomsday let’s go to hell and back agenda which you also ignore and leave out of your comparison.

4. I forgot 4 but I’ll let you know when I remember.

opinions are just that, opinions. I have mine, you have yours. I don't think I have ever told you (or anyone else) that they're opinion is wrong. You obviously have no problem doing that if the opinion in question does not match yours.

Posted by wylie715 on 7/17/2023 1:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/17/2023 1:01:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 10:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/16/2023 8:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

What you said scares the shiit out of me.
That way of perceiving things is how we got to Jan 6 and why the body politic is clinging to life and will flat line unless more standard republicans become independents and dems and more independents become dems.

Right now there are so many smart really talented dems and we have a president that has kept so many promises and produced such prodigious results.

I know this will make you angry Wylie but I wonder why you are not able to draw a wider line between the 2 parties. If you can’t really see what is right before your eyes either open your eyes And your ears or give in to the architecture of fear.
A lot of independents ignore republicans but belittle dems and insist that they be more then perfect even when it is only / only the dems that will protect their way of life.

people calling themselves independents are usually embarrassed republicans or dopes. Sometimes not of those 2 but most of the time yes.
if course IMO.

you know what? I don't really care if my opinion scares the **** out of you. It scares me that you are unable to see that while most democrats are better than most republicans, that's not a very high bar to get over. Yes, there are some dems who are decent. I'm sure there are 1 or 2 republicans who are decent, you just never hear about them. I get you don't agree with me, and that's fine. I don't agree with everything you post either.
And why would it make me angry? I know how you feel about this. We happen to disagree. People disagreeing with my opinions does not make me angry. People with totally closed minds and who can't think for themselves (I'm looking at you, lnf) make me angry.

What you don’t agree with me on is that :

1. Way most dems are way most better then the safest Republican. I would say every fed dem I would have to think hard about 2. You describe the tipping of the scale by an extra pebble. You could not be more wrong.

2. The democrats have a platform ( which you always leave out ) that they ascribe to and legislate to live up to and that agenda is unbelievably modern and productive and helps the country thrive. You ignore it
as if it is non existent and or not tethered to each democrat.

3. Republicans also follow their doomsday let’s go to hell and back agenda which you also ignore and leave out of your comparison.

4. I forgot 4 but I’ll let you know when I remember.

opinions are just that, opinions. I have mine, you have yours. I don't think I have ever told you (or anyone else) that they're opinion is wrong. You obviously have no problem doing that if the opinion in question does not match yours.

When I am so certain that I consider what I say is fact proven over and over and over then it is not opinion to me.

Thats what we have - you consider your statements to be opinion while my statements are fact which cannot be disputed. Literally and truly. There is overwhelming data to uphold what I say.

That is just the way it is.
What I say isn’t fact because I say it is.
It is fact because it is proven way beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Going back to my statements there are about 3-4 people in congress that are dems that I don’t trust and throw them in with the republicans even though they are far far superior then any Republican.

When it comes to politics in 2023 everyone should make a clear decision.

yes, but you seem to be so certain about most of your opinions.I don't completely trust any elected official . There are some I trust more than others (for instance, I trust AOC far more than I trust MTG or Boebert) but I don't trust any of them completely. You disagree? Fine. I don't care. You want to call your opinions fact? Fine, go ahead. I'm not going to argue with you anymore about this. You know how I feel, and I know how you feel. Just leave it at that.

If you say you don’t trust anyone 100% that is fine and a normal stance to take but that doesn’t lead to putting everyone in the same boat
If you do not think that the country is literally fighting to not be turned into an autocracy then you will never ever be able to understand fact from opinion or the danger that the country is in.

Nobody is able to have an intellect without intelligence and no one can have intelligence without common sense and the instinctive ability to realistically compare and contrast 2 extremely different things.

for probably about the 10th time, I never said everyone was "in the same boat". Obviously, not every politician (or person) is the same. Some are awful, some are decent, but none of them are completely honest.

Posted by wylie715 on 7/17/2023 10:17:00 PM (view original):
for probably about the 10th time, I never said everyone was "in the same boat". Obviously, not every politician (or person) is the same. Some are awful, some are decent, but none of them are completely honest.

Meaningless - totally -
Is there a person in the history of mankind completely honest. Kindergartners know that so why say it as if it means something.

You have never directly compared the parties and their members.

You just keep saying no one in either party is perfect.
Im sorry Wylie but Duh