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The shutdown is about only one thing - the expiring ACA tax subsidies. Nothing else.

Vance is already out there with big lies about Medicare etc for illegals. It is not an issue. It is not discussed or even sought. Vance is lying.

It is only about ACA. Nada else.

In what universe should such a basic need be debated?
And one party willing to shut down the universe to deny it

They have had 9 months to extend the subsidies.
They are trying to trick the Dems and the people. They will not concede

Dems do not bend or capitulate or you will be branded as weak and unreliable.
10/1/2025 3:12 PM
Until Trump came down the escalator of death, American politicians would lie sometimes - republicans mostly. There would be spin and sometimes omission and lots of sneering branding by republicans - they would use the word liberal as an ugly epithet. They would say it like they were saying pedophile. It was despicable.

Whether it was Bush 1 with a racist scare tactic or misinformation by Republican state and congressional candidates over taxes the lies were predictable and the same. Sure Dems had their own stuff but they were the ones who were usually trying to ward of the lies told about them.

But it wasn’t until Trump that a political party began to engage in complete and total fabrication of stories and lies made out of whole cloth and alternative facts and big even giant lies and incredible wild incomprehensible conspiracy theories and accusations.

It may have been invented by Trump but the party lapped it up and got behind it and brought it to party politics at every level from city to state and federal.

And it is now a civilization in the United States.
There are the Dems still trying to help people real people and a Republican civilization led by mud soaked shamans that tries to conquer anyone in its path no matter the consequences, like it is war. Use the uneducated natives to serve the chiefs.

it is still getting worse and reaching new lows and lies.
10/2/2025 8:48 AM (edited)
One of the Worst Big Lies Yet

The word evil is out there because sometimes things said or done really is evil - literally evil as in biblical god bad good and evil.

Trump and Vance and MAGA and white house.org and congressional republicans are saying outright that the government shutdown is because democrats are demanding free healthcare for illegal immigrants.

This is not rooted in even a fragment of one percent of truth. There is no such demand or even proposal.
In fact it would be against federal law and a budget can’t change that. Only a bill passed by the house and senate could do that.

The democrats have never tried to change the law.

The shutdown is over AMERICAN CITIZENS ( and permanent residents - green card holders) having their ACA premiums skyrocket. Because republicans REFUSE to stop the tax subsidies from expiring.

We live in a time when the president tells complete lies every day as in stopping 7 wars.

Sometimes a lie just jumps out and attacks the the truth in such a way that it cannot be denied that it is truly evil.

To try to fool the public with an actual fiction to force ACA premiums to skyrocket and lie about what the Dems are fighting for during a federal shutdown goes way way way past the new norm set by Trump and MAGA.

This should be seen as more then morally repugnant.
10/3/2025 11:29 AM (edited)
It was the recklessness and gross negligence of Netanyahu that made Israel porous to the horrific attack.
But as a war president he has been unwavering and unflinching and uncompromising.

That is great because he has brought Hamas to its knees.

But there is no reason why at the same time he could not have gone above and beyond to make sure that civilians no matter how much they support Hamas got food even if Hamas fighters were mixed in.

Because of that the moral high ground Israel had always occupied has been severely damaged.

Now Hamas is where Japan was at the end of WW2 reduced to kamakazi missions.

The time is obviously ripe for a cease fire.
And without a timetable Hamas can gradually be squeezed out of governing power. That can be done with or without a formal plan.

Adhering to a point by point plan isn’t realistic.
Nurturing an evolution and maturity and realism among the Palestinians has to happen organically.
10/4/2025 1:26 PM
Welcome To The Goon Squad

Sure Trump wants undocumented immigrants out.
We all know that he does not want Black and brown people poisoning the heritage of the country. Those are the adults.

But the real goal is not about stopping adult “illegals” from taking jobs.

The existential issue for Trump and the gooniest of the goons is to stop new birthright citizens.
That is the real crux of it all.

That’s what he means when he talks about the poisoning of the blood of the country.
Thats why ending birthright citizenship is going to the “Supreme” Court.

Alito and Thomas of course will lead the charge. Better than 50% that Kav and Gor will join them. Then what.

Uncle Thomas thinks that he is a white man. He has no black friends. He and Alito are brothers from another mother. He is ***** whipped by a big white woman. He takes bribes from his best buddies - billionaire white guys.

And he always votes for the rich and powerful white guys and he and his albino white bride of Frankenstein wife go on vacations to their homes and resorts and sail on the oceans with them free of charge of course. And he and his big fat mama is MAGA through and through even about the rigged election and upside down flags etc etc.

He is Trump’s African American.

It has been all about the black and brown. Stopping the Asians is getting done by making HB1 visas cost 100 grand for the sponsor. True - look it up.

Whites from South Africa are being warmly received here and encouraged to come because they are ( absolutely not ) being persecuted by racist black people. And think about it - who would make better MAGA Americans then white people claiming that black people steal their jobs and land and money.

Birthright citizenship coming to a Supreme Court near you. Soon and those oral arguments will be a doozy.
10/5/2025 8:40 AM
If you are aware of the 3iAtlas comet? story but have not followed it then now is the time. High resolution pictures are coming.
The most recent picture shows something cylindrical but Professor Loeb says it is because of a thing with light making it look that way in his opinion.

On Israel/Hamas they would not be talking unless Hamas and the Gaza people knew they were beaten with zero chance now of achieving their goal of the destruction of Israel.

However I have yet to read even one story bringing up boundaries of a future state and the status of the right to return issue; the latter having sunk every single prior plan by itself, including the finished deal with Arafat scuttled at the literal last second. It has been so much of an intractable issue that it became the reason for the abandonment of peace talk by Israel about 15 I think about years ago. Why waste time on a predetermined impossibility.

On borders previously every peace plan gave about 97% of the pre 1967 land to the pals and east Jerusalem to the pals. There was some type of formula on Jerusalem. And it made residents of east Jerusalem citizens of the Palestinian state.

When if ever will those issues get addressed?
Time will tell and it will be very fascinating to follow.
10/6/2025 10:56 AM
Only the Supreme Court can get the troops out of our cities. If they refuse then those troops are here to stay and army soldiers will be added to the national guard.

If the Supreme Court rules against Trump will he ignore the ruling? Then what if he does?

Or if the Supreme Court rules against him and he says ok I’m keeping them there under the Insurrection Act instead.

And if that and when it would eventually get to the Supreme Court again and they rule against him again what happens if he says they are a bunch left wing radical lunatics who hate America and he refuses to follow their ruling?

And what happens if some military won’t take his orders what happens to them? Immediate court martials?

If it was just a lunatic president without a MAGA military we would have a chance.

The possibility it comes to deadly violence before the midterms is real.
10/7/2025 10:15 AM (edited)
The Gun Paradox

The modern republicans were the worshippers of guns because they wanted to have armed militias just in case - the federal government went crazy against the people. They zealously prayed to the alter of the second amendment.

But now they are the government going crazy against the people. We saw it on Jan 6 and now it has metastasized. Military troops arresting American citizens on petty whims and lies. Masked men from government agencies brutalizing children women and men even in wheel chairs with literally glee. National guards brought to cities on false pretenses to intimidate and all of it to last indefinitely or at least until the midterms are over if you know what I mean.

And the shackles and zip ties dark of night and undisclosed locations. The rituals employed by the new lords of the church of Donald Trump.

And those monsters still of course worship machine guns. I guess only people with certain political registrations will have guns eventually. Especially machine guns.

This is early nazi germany without Mein kamph.
We get project 25. This is early nazi Germany without planned genocide.

Hitler could have been stopped in 1933 - 1935. But Germany had too many MAGA and not enough MSNBC and Jimmy Kimmel and progressive democrats and independents and righteous republicans.
10/8/2025 10:55 AM
King of the Road

Big story low radar. It is never in the news but the gargantuan civil case against Dondolph Trumpler re Jan 6 is moving forward.
Discovery is starting including depositions including Trumpler.

However one big issue must first be decided. The judge will soon rule on whether Trumpler gets immunity for what he wrought on that fateful day based on that Supreme Court decision which drew a distinction between private acts and official acts.

No matter what the ruling will be it will be appealed up to the Supreme Court. The district court and the appeals court will rule against Trump.

Then the Supreme Court will have to apply their criteria to the facts of January 6. It is possible that maybe Gorsuch and or Kav could say not official acts but I would not hold my breath.

If may come down to Roberts and Barrett. Although their record on everything except ACA is mostly poor they are the only normal conservatives on the bench and they are the wild cards.

This is fascinating and important.
10/9/2025 11:38 AM (edited)
We can always rely upon the wisdom of the American people - shattered myth

Americans revere democracy - myth shattered

American people are the smartest - myth shattered

America is an immigrant nation - myth shattered

America is a secular society - on thin ice

America turned away from racism when Obama was elected - myth broken

There are good people on both sides in general - lies

The conservative movement fights for freedom against Russia - now just a myth

Obamacare will be replaced with something better - a lie and an inexplicable one

I will be your retribution - true
Vengeance is mine sayeth the lord of the flys
10/10/2025 11:57 AM (edited)
Trump got an MRI at Walter Reed ( no machines at White House facility.

But why? Neck, shoulder, back, knee I doubt it. No apparent possible disc or meniscus or rotator issue.

Flair up of his bone spurs? Probably not.

Brain scan for Alzheimer’s or tumor? Definite possibility.

Spinal cord tumor - maybe.

Liver or pancreas or kidney or prostate or rectal cancer being check for? Also possible.

Probably a brain scan since Alzheimer’s in addition to corruption and racism runs in the family.
10/11/2025 4:46 PM
Millions of Trumpers and people non political and unaffiliated with reality are under the medical care of RKK jr.

Taking the medical advice from a man who knows so much that he is one of a few people in the world to get a gnawing worm in his brain. He is lucky that the worm got sick and found a way out.

And the health expert ate a dead bear lying in the road. He cooked it.

And in Asia he ate a dog.

Measles now the worst in 3 decades and we still have 2 and 1/2 months for the year and school just started so it is likely to pick up dangerously high victims again.

And actual legitimate and kind hearted medical experts say that they are concerned about bird flu. They say that it could be the next epidemic or pandemic.
I feel so confident having Trump and RFK in charge.
Bring back bleach.

Could have perfect storm of massive bird flu and tens of millions of people no longer having health insurance.

Maybe then RFK would be impeached.

He is criminally insane. He should go to prison and be the cell mate of Sirhan Sirhan.
10/12/2025 7:11 PM
The Crowning Glory

First of all only Trump can insist that a cease fire is the same as the end of a war. Israel and the Palestinians have been at war since 1948. It has been one long series of waging the war and pauses of the war.

And this was a cease fire because one party was on its death bed. Big whoop for big accomplishment. Even mainstream media has blown it out of proportion.

The 20 point plan is doomed because the Palestinian people are not ready. The plan has more holes than Swiss cheese.

Ignores West Bank and its separate governance and borders and the over arching problem on giving up the massive demand of right of return of over 5 million into Israel.

And Hamas is still in charge of Gaza. They are not willing to surrender their weapons. They need them at this moment to crush factions in Gaza.

There have been scores of cease fires.
The plan is to treat Gaza like Germany after WW2.

I have no sympathy for the Palestinians except children and the 10% who do not support Hamas.

The Palestinians were are and for the foreseeable future people with thievery and entitlement in their culture and personality. A sad but accurate truth.

Thet were warned by the last centrist Israeli government they would squander their last chance before the right took over.

Isreal is no longer interested in a 2 state agreement not that I blame them.

The 20 step plan is actually truthfully a colonization plan. For real. Ain’t gonna happen.

The root cause is the Palestinian people themselves - why they accept corruption and endless war and goals that are never going to happen. They need to become different people and join civilization. First step throw out Hamas and similar suicide lovers.

Only then and it isn’t now can they have peaceful coexistence in a real country.
10/14/2025 9:55 AM
The Crowning Glory

First of all only Trump can insist that a cease fire is the same as the end of a war. Israel and the Palestinians have been at war since 1948. It has been one long series of waging the war and pauses of the war.

And this was a cease fire because one party was on its death bed. Big whoop for big accomplishment. Even mainstream media has blown it out of proportion.

The 20 point plan is doomed because the Palestinian people are not ready. The plan has more holes than Swiss cheese.

Ignores West Bank and its separate governance and borders and the over arching problem on giving up the massive demand of right of return of over 5 million into Israel.

And Hamas is still in charge of Gaza. They are not willing to surrender their weapons. They need them at this moment to crush factions in Gaza.

There have been scores of cease fires.
The plan is to treat Gaza like Germany after WW2.

I have no sympathy for the Palestinians except children and the 10% who do not support Hamas.

The Palestinians were are and for the foreseeable future people with thievery and false unrealistic unreasonable entitlement in their culture and personality.With glorification of suicidal violence. A sad but accurate truth.

Thet were warned by the last centrist Israeli government they would squander their last chance before the right took over.

Isreal is no longer interested in a 2 state agreement not that I blame them.

The 20 step plan is actually truthfully a colonization plan. For real. Ain’t gonna happen.

The root cause is the Palestinian people themselves - while they accept corruption and endless war and goals that are never going to happen. They need to become different people and join civilization. First step throw out Hamas and similar suicide lovers.

Only then and it isn’t now can they have peaceful coexistence in a real country. With civilized values. The Arab countries can show them how to get there.
The Arab countries except Iran can be their psychiatrists.
10/14/2025 10:02 AM (edited)
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