Super Franchise-SD+Det- Gwynn & Verlander Topic

Will provide a FREE team to anyone who joins and agrees to continue for at least five seasons, including the free season.

This is essentially a franchise league where you bring back franchise studs to join with your team every 10 years. The rules are below. We started in 1981 and we are preparing for 2012. The unique rules start with the Future players section that explains when and how we add franchise players. SD added Tony Gwynn for 2010 and has his entire career in front of him. Detroit picked Trammell and has his full career in front of him plus has 91 Jack Morris with several good seasons left. All teams are available as a result of longtime owners dropping WIS due to personal issues/health. Send a sitemail and note below if you are interested.

The SD franchise: The current core group includes 86 Tony Gwynn, Justin Upton, Anthony Rizzo, Aramis Ramirez, Arrieta, Buehrle, Morton, and Peavy. I am running the team this season and they are 46-63 and will have a relatively early pick and picked up another 1st round pick in a trade.

The Det franchise: The current core group includes 1981 Trammell, Matt Holliday, Austin Jackson, Chris Davis, BJ Upton, Verlander, 91 Jack Morris, Porcello, AJ Burnett. Some useable rookie seasons coming up also. They are 58-51, 2 games back from the division lead and set to compete for seasons to come. No rebuild here.

Shortened RULES
  • Rights to rookies: The keeper rights to rookie players belong to the team which he first has WIS eligibility. For example, Charlie Hayes is a rookie in WIS in 1989 and shows up under both Philadelphia and San Francisco. However, his first WIS eligibility season was with Philadelphia as his SF season was a combined season (he only had 5 at bats with SF then was was traded to Philadelphia). Addendum: If a player first appears in the database only as a result of a combined season (no WIS qualifying season for either team), that player will be eligible to be drafted and cannot be claimed by either team. If you do not keep a rookie, then that player is available to be drafted by any team.
  • Draft order: Draft order will be established at game 150 and will go from lowest to highest wins.
  • Franchise players: These player progress one year at a time. Franchise players will disappear when you reach their rookie season. Example-Chipper Jones will run into his rookie year in 1995 and the owner will lose the Chipper franchise twist and restart him in 1995 (no clones rule).
  • Future Franchise players:
    Before the 2010 season, you will be able to go back and select 1 player from your teams roster from 1987-1996. Rules for that selection are:
  1. The player chosen must have been a rookie with your franchise (first WIS eligible season for the franchise gets the rights, just like the rookie rules)
  2. You may start player in his 1st, 2nd or 3rd season (in the WIS database), and he will progress 1 season at a time.
  3. The chosen player cannot make a clone or possibly make a clone (say if on IR in 2000). If the player still has eligible seasons, then you must have control of that player to restart him. For example, Cal Ripken still has a season in 2000, but if you were the owner of Baltimore and you still had him on your roster in 1999, you could "cut" him and restart his career since he was on the Orioles between 77-86. The 2000 Ripken would not be available to be drafted.You would only be able to have him on your roster as either the 2000 version or the franchise version.
  4. If your player reaches his rookie season, you must replace him with his rookie season.
  5. If you trade your franchise player, His rookie rights go with him!
Before the 2020 Season, you will be able to go back and select 1 player from your teams roster from 1997-2006. Same rules apply as above.
  • Clones: No clones are permitted other than those that are grandfathered in as of 1992.
  • Stadiums: Stadiums are the stadium of your franchise. When the stadium changes for your franchise (Indians go to Jacobs Field in 94), the team may change to the new stadium. Once you change, you must stay in that stadium. You cannot flip back and forth.
The Basics

No WW
DH For all teams
4 AAA players will be drafted and may be used and may also be keepers in future seasons. WIS generated AAA are not permitted to be used.
Full or partial player seasons may be used.

The franchises we draft rookies from are:
Arizona Diamondbacks
Baltimore Orioles
Chicago Cubs
Chicago White Sox
Philadelphia Phillies
San Francisco Giants
Tampa Rays
Texas Rangers
Colorado Rockies
Florida Marlins
7/26/2025 11:05 AM (edited)
SD Roster

You pick who to keep/cut. I've listed 23 below, but you can cut more. Salary of about $69mm as constructed. Solid pitching, but the offense needs some at bats, but has Gwynn, Upton, Rizzo and Grandal as cornerstones.

C Yasmani Grandal
1b Anthony Rizzo
2b Logan Forsythe
3b Aramis Ramirez, Juan Uribe
SS Brandon Crawford, Evereth Cabrera
OF 86 Tony Gwynn, Desmond Jennings, Justin Upton
DH-

P Mark Buehrle
P Jake Peavy
P Josh Johnson
P Mat Latos
P Luke Gregerson
P Kyle Kendrick
P Charlie Morton
P Derek Holland
P Ernesto Frieri
P Jake Arrieta
P Brad Bach
P Miles Mikolas
P Nick Vincent

IR- Ryan Madson

Cuts- Cory Luebke, Carlos Lee, Carl Crawford, Miguel Olivo, Nick Hundley
7/26/2025 11:04 AM (edited)
Detroit roster

You pick who to keep/cut. I've listed 24 keepers, but you can cut to make room for draft picks. Salary as constructed is about $80mm. A young stud Verlander, a solid Jack Morris and a young Trammell makes for a team ready to compete now and into the future.

C Ryan Doumit, Alex Avila
1b Chris Davis, Brandon Belt, Mark Reynolds
2b Dan Uggla
3b Danny Valencia, Wilson Betemit
SS 1981 Alan Trammell
OF Austin Jackson, BJ Upton, Matt Holliday, Lucas Duda, Carlos Quentin, Chris Coghlan
DH-

P Justin Verlander
P Jack Morris (1991)
P AJ Burnett
P Ubaldo Jimenez
P Andrew Miller
P Chris Perez
P Rick Porcello
P Tyler Clippard
P Drew Smyly

Cuts- Ramon Santiago, Scott Downs, Daniel Hudson
7/20/2025 7:56 AM (edited)
I will take the Saint Louis Franchise if I may ...
3/21/2025 11:37 AM
Both teams available as we prepare for the 2012 season.
7/20/2025 6:13 PM
SD and Det both available
7/26/2025 11:04 AM
Getting ready to get the draft rolling soon. Jump in now and grab a team with great building blocks (SD) or a team ready to win now (Detroit).
8/1/2025 1:05 PM
Gettin started with the draft. SD has the #3 pick.
8/12/2025 9:38 PM
SD just picked up Manny Machado, so huge addition to a team that is building a nice base.
8/13/2025 7:34 PM
Bump- both teams are well positioned to contend either immediately (Detroit) or in the near future (SD)
8/14/2025 2:57 PM
Detroit has picked up P Andrew Cashner while SD has picked up 3b Manny Machado, P Chris Archer, and 1b Brandon Moss.
8/18/2025 11:18 AM
Super Franchise-SD+Det- Gwynn & Verlander Topic

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